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Declan's avatar

TLDR for the article is besides Jan 6, Trump has said XYZ, XYZ is bad therefore Trump is bad. Trump is friends (spoke well of him) with Orban, Orban bad therefore Trump bad. So 50% of the article is about Hungary and Orban who ironically based on the latest data holds close to 60% approval from the people, something that ANY American politician, president or governor would die for. Oh wait, after Fidesz become the government in 2010, their approval rating ROSE in 2015 based on how Orban handled the migrant crisis.

Not to make Orban sound like a prophet, but you could say he saw into a crystal ball and dealt with the migrant crisis before it affected the rest of Europe which "bastion of democracies" such as Sweden, Germany, Denmark, UK, all had to deal with it to a similar extent 4-5 years later. The REFUSAL of to acknowledge that Europe has an issue with immigration is honestly laughable.

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Before I share my understanding of what is happening, I want to check - is it at all meaningful to you to consider what a contemplative view of this unfolding may be?

I mean, one that takes very seriously (VERY seriously) the practical implications of Paul's quotation from that 3rd century "pagan" poet, regarding God as that "in which we live and move and have our being?"

Some have been quoting Julian of Norwich's 'All shall be well." And others find that horrifying, as if it is some impossible Panglossian insanity.

It's hard, on the internet, in this field of anonymity, to have an in-depth truly contemplative conversation. But given the tenor of much of your postings, I wonder if you would be willing to dip your feet (toes?) into some contemplative waters........to perhaps, walk with us together beside still waters......

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